It’s not the dogs, it’s us

I’ve been reading the furore over the stray dogs episode over the last few days. Reading headlines like “man eating dogs”, when you know that dogs don’t eat men, is quite disturbing and sends the wrong message altogether.

And while it’s easy to blame the dogs, I think we need to acknowledge that it is largely a problem of our own making.

It’s time to stop blaming dogs and ask ourselves how we got into this miserable state of affairs.

It’s we who have allowed Bangalore to become a city with the largest stray dog population. It’s we, who have allowed our garbage bins to spill out into every corner of the city. It’s we who have looked the other way when our bins are overflowing into the streets. We are the ones creating filth and human waste all around our neighbourhoods without a thought to the consequences. It’s not the dogs. We have not heeded the danger signs and it’s we who have NOT taken the right measures when they needed to be taken.

With the civic authorities and the NGOs blaming each other for the current state of affairs (how did we get here?!), no matter who is to finally blame, the bottom line remains that we are responsible. I presume the NGOs work on whatever funds that they can gather and I’ve personally visited some of these animal welfare organizations and it’s quite amazing the kind of work some of the people put in (mostly as volunteers, and for free). Their pounds are always overflowing and the people are always working around the clock at the centres.

I have no idea what the civic authorities have done so far as this problem goes and why they waited so long to act (and the acting now by resorting to mass culling is absolutely deplorable). While they would like to shift the blame to the NGOs for not being able to control the dog population, isn’t it their final responsibility to make sure that the city is livable and safe (from dangerous man killing humans too, I should perhaps add)?

It’s not something that was a secret – in many forwards and facts about Bangalore, there is usually a mention that Bangalore has the highest population of street dogs. What have they been doing all this while?

Consider this: When does a dog really attack? When they’re provoked or threatened. And what brings about this behaviour?

We have thousands of dogs in houses. Why aren’t they (usually) dangerous? Of course, many of us have sustained the occasional bites from house dogs but this is hardly something that is never made into an issue. In a homely environment, dogs don’t (normally) attack.

While civic authorities have been quick to blame illegal meat shops and dumping of offal in garbage that is hardly cleared, and the public has been quick to latch on the theory that street dogs feeding on raw meat become ferocious and kill humans. However, this is only part of the truth says T Gopal, who is the retired director of the Institute of Animal Health.

In the Hindu, he is quoted: “The causes behind dogs turning aggressive are intrinsically linked. As the city has grown, the availability of food has increased. So we see food waste being dumped at many places. In such areas, dogs start to form groups and roam around together. When the dogs start roaming in groups, they become more powerful and develop a pack mentality. It’s imperative that we stop street dogs forming packs.”

“If the leader of the pack, which is generally the most aggressive, attacks a person, then all the others will follow suit,” says Animal Welfare Board Chairman, RM Kharb.

Meanwhile, as a knee-jerk reaction, you have the government trying to catch dogs by whatever means possible and dispose of them in absolutely inhumane manners. Any human with some empathy will be shocked at the way the carcasses are being disposed. The March 9 Hindu carried a report about how the BBMP is loading carcasses onto lorries and dumping them in the city’s outskirts near villages. And all this, obviously, is all okay?

Why did we allow things to reach this state?

Maybe it’s time to stop blaming dogs and ask ourselves how we got ourselves into this miserable state of affairs?

“Killing all stray dogs because one dog killed a child is senseless. It’s like ordering all humans to be killed, because one human killed another. Strays should be captured, evaluated if necessary, sent to permanent, temporary shelters, vaccinated and cared for,” says a gentleman. Makes more sense than the senseless killing that we are embarking on now. Animals don’t have the intelligence of man, and yet we are the ones who reach these deplorable lows in the way we behave, react and think.

I have often seen kids (and even grown-up adults) throwing stones, beating them with sticks, chasing and trying to hurt dogs. The other day, on the road, I saw a gang of two on a motorcycle trying to scare a limping dog on the street by nearly driving into him and killing him. Aren’t we then equally dangerous and deplorable creatures to be roaming on the streets and by the same logic, shouldn’t all dangerous people be culled and killed?

Here are some reasonable and humane methods to control strays:

Sandeep Bharucha, Secretary of CUPA

– Effective management of solid waste
– Multi-pronged approach, which includes sterilization, re-vaccination, aggressive adoption and removal of unfit dogs
– A large dog shelter – spread over five acres – built by the corporation and managed by – NGOs to house healthy, sterilized and friendly dogs
– Community dogs can be collared licensed, sterilized and vaccinated

BG Ramakrishna, President of Karuna Animal Welfare Association

– Public should be urged to adopt stray dogs
– Corporation should build animal shelters

Dilip Bafna, Animal Rights Funds Trustee

– Animal Birth Control programme should be re-started
– Educate the public, including children government officials about responsible ways to behave with animals
– Street plays and distribution of pamphlets about ways to adopt stray dogs

Poornima Harish, Krupa Loving Animals Trustee

– Environment kept clean
– ABC and anti-rabies vaccination programme should be continued to reach all stray dogs.
– Be sensitive in handling the stray dog issue and not create a mass hysteria

Courtesy, TOI, March 10

Instead of reacting like humans, let’s react in a humane manner instead.

25 Comments so far

  1. Rajesh (unregistered) on March 10th, 2007 @ 10:40 am

    Anita,

    A very comprehensive and elaborate post, Indeed!!

    My two cents on using the title ‘Man Eaters’ as headers of my earlier post is the same application like we use for tigers when one kills a ‘human’, when we also know tigers don’t eat man!

    You are right, when this is applicable it should be specific on that one indivudual crature and not for the entire commune…

    it is entirely diff debate on wheather we need strays on the city or not, collectivly i belive we don’t exist as ‘WE’, that seems to be the root cause of the entire episode!!


  2. KART (unregistered) on March 10th, 2007 @ 12:18 pm

    “Animals don’t have the intelligence of man, and yet we are the ones who reach these deplorable lows in the way we behave, react and think”
    beautifully put.

    i hope atleast a few people from the metblogs blr team understand that.

    finally someone with a level head posting on metblogs. till now all we read was hatred..so much hatred against dogs.


  3. Yasmine Claire (unregistered) on March 10th, 2007 @ 5:43 pm

    great post Anita! :)


  4. usha (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 6:19 pm

    It is easy to round up the dogs and get rid of them in a brutal manner than devise schemes for the long term to eradicate the problem. Dogs have been on the streets for ever and why this sudden paranoia about them being out to wipe the human race?
    Yes, if a dog is violent or diseased, their methods are justified. But this indiscriminate rounding up all of them and getting rid of them cruelly and dumping them in drains to cause diseases?? Whose bright idea was this? I agree yasmine, this is a nazi approach

    Thanks anita, you have spoken on behalf of all animal lovers.


  5. Padma (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 9:07 pm

    I was in B’lore when the news abt a child being attacked and killed by a group of stray dogs made headlines in leading newspapers.While my sympathies are with the bereaved family I did not for a minute foresee this kind of reaction from the civic authorities.You are right.WE and we alone are responsible for the behavior of these street dogs.We Indians do not think twice before littering public places and have no right to blame our canine friends for clearing up the mess.I claim that the ‘animal’ in us is worse than that seen in obligatory carnivores and the reaction of those in power to a stray(pardon the pun)incident is proof to my claim.Man shows mob frenzy despite his capacity to reason.Surely ther has to be a better way of dealing with animals that do the same.


  6. Padma (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 9:08 pm

    I was in B’lore when the news abt a child being attacked and killed by a group of stray dogs made headlines in leading newspapers.While my sympathies are with the bereaved family I did not for a minute foresee this kind of reaction from the civic authorities.You are right.WE and we alone are responsible for the behavior of these street dogs.We Indians do not think twice before littering public places and have no right to blame our canine friends for clearing up the mess.I claim that the ‘animal’ in us is worse than that seen in obligatory carnivores and the reaction of those in power to a stray(pardon the pun)incident is proof to my claim.Man shows mob frenzy despite his capacity to reason.Surely ther has to be a better way of dealing with animals that do the same.


  7. Ruth (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 12:42 am

    Yes, we have brought this upon ourselves, with garbage on the streets and throwing out our pets. And I also think that since Bangalore is expanding, the people living in the outskirts of the city will encounter the wilder dogs which live in packs. Why whenever we vist a farmhouse we hear stories of dogs in that area that will tear apart a pet dog.

    After the horror of the culling of dogs in China and large pet dogs being taken away from their owners in Beiging, it is very upsetting to see something like this happening in our city. I feel ashamed to be in Bangalore today.

    I do hope the few voices can make a change. And people will take educated actions and not emotionally charged ones.

    The picture in Times of India, last week of two BEML security gaurds chasing a tiny puppy was a mockery… it was captioned “Dog Chasers.” Oh I have seen horrible security gaurds kick pups and security gaurds who love dogs. I shudder to think of the poor strays that meet up with the former type of security gaurd now.

    Please take a few seconds to sign a petition to stop killing stray dogs in Bangalore.

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/my/content_preview/729776447

    “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” -Mahatama Gandhi

    Ruth M


  8. Ruth (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 12:49 am

    Yes, we have brought this upon ourselves, with garbage on the streets and abandoning our pets and so we add to the stray dog population.

    After the horror of the culling of dogs in China and large pet dogs being taken away from their owners in Beijing, it is very upsetting to see something like this happening in our city. I feel ashamed to be in Bangalore today.

    I do hope the few voices can make a change. And people will take educated actions and not emotionally charged ones.

    The picture in Times of India, last week of two BEML security guards chasing a tiny puppy was a mockery… it was captioned “Dog Chasers.” Oh I have seen horrible security guards kick pups and security guards who love dogs. I shudder to think of the poor strays that meet up with the former type of security guard now.

    Please take a few seconds to sign a petition to stop killing stray dogs in Bangalore.

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/my/content_preview/729776447

    “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” -Mahatma Gandhi

    Ruth M


  9. Vishnu (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 11:25 am

    “Animals don’t have the intelligence of man.” Statements like these smack of utter lack of knowledge about animals.

    I protest whatever is written about the subject here. The writer of the main post has abysmal knowledge about animal behaviour.


  10. Ruth (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 1:18 am

    I think the point is that we are all intelligent in different levels. Humans learn a lot from nature and also from animals. We still have to learn a lot. I think the time is for action and people please take action against this crime.

    I have just received this information in an email from a friend in New Delhi.

    Dear Friends,

    Excuse me for taking your time – but this is a shocking tale of how an
    inefficient administration unable to do its job well can recourse to
    barbarism to find short-term solutions to its problems. So please,
    please read – and pass on the message to anyone who cares that the
    BANGALORE LOCAL AUTHORITIES ARE BRUTALLY MURDERING THOUSANDS OF DOGS
    ON THE STREETS!

    I would begin by regretting deeply the two incidents of children
    getting mauled in Bangalore. For those who are not from Bangalore,
    allow me to bring you up the curve – these were two unfortunate
    incidents of children being mauled by stray dogs recently in
    semi-rural Bangalore. Anyone living in a city would be familiar with
    such incidents – an urban “Man-Animal Conflict” phenomenon which is
    sad and avoidable. Both incidents have happened in peripheral areas
    where the CNVR program (Catch Neuter Vaccinate Release/ABC) has NOT
    been implemented.

    Obviously, the media of this city went to town over this, glossing
    over the menace and pointed fingers at the local authorities. The
    authorities passed the buck on to the NGO’s, without any compassionate
    or scientific understanding of the problem. What followed was a diktat
    of the worst kind: a death sentence to all dogs on the streets of this
    so-called advanced technopolis.

    This solution suggested by the Bangalore authorities to KILL EVERY
    STRAY DOG (numbering in hundreds of thousands) is the most primitive
    and barbaric one can imagine, and only points to their ineptness and
    apathy to the real problem at hand.

    In a knee jerk reaction to unwarranted hype, thousands of animals have
    been subjected to death by strangulation, crushing their skulls with
    boulders after bleach thrown in the eyes to make the animal blind and
    docile. After living and working in 4 metros, I cannot recall any city
    ever coming up with such a solution to the challenge of strays.

    We followed a dog-catching vehicle (KA03 9906) this morning to the KR
    Puram CMC Office where we were brow-beaten and forced to retreat. The
    secret information was that the animals would be taken the same night
    for execution in a village outside Hosakote. The sentence: To be
    beaten to death or crushed with stones.

    But what I saw will live in my memory forever: The physical abuse that
    the white female was going through was horrific: I stopped one catcher
    from beating her with a Plank embedded with two nails – you can see
    the blood spouting and staining the catch-leash.

    In the cage we have seen two animals had died of strangulation and the
    bodies dumped inside. Other dogs were on the on the point of
    suffocation: the atmosphere was dreadful with howling and wailing,
    possibly with the knowledge of impending death.

    Here I must mention that I petted many of these so called ferocious
    animals without any problem.

    The insane aspect about the entire exercise is that the tame dogs who
    have no fear at all of humans are the ones being caught as they come
    willingly to the dog catchers when called, who are getting paid Rs.50
    for their “fearless” acts. These animals have no fear of man, but an
    understanding and a relationship with man, which is often their
    undoing. Hence, like the tame animal with the red collar and Clipped
    ear we saw being caught, they can be easily caught and tortured to
    death.

    Tragically almost all the dogs have already been neutered and
    vaccinated. Their absence will allow potentially dangerous animals to
    penetrate into the area from rural surroundings where there is no
    control on disease or Rabies.

    The rational solution, which any person with an iota of sense and
    sensitivity will see, is not by eliminating every dog but by
    scientifically controlling the population to keep out the real strays
    that have not been neutered and vaccinated. As mentioned earlier, in
    many peripheral areas around Bangalore, where the CNVR program(Catch
    Neuter Vaccinate Release/ABC) has NOT been implemented, there is a
    problem. But this Hitleresque “Final Solution” is definitely not a
    step in the right direction.

    The situation can best be termed as barbaric and deplorable. We
    request all to appeal to the CMC’s and put pressure on them to
    immediately stop catching dogs if they are Collared or have been
    Vaccinated and Neutered.( Identified By Clipped Ear). All un-neutered
    dogs should be caught and sent consequently for the CVNR program.

    We have taken photographs of what we saw this morning. But they are
    disturbing, and we decided not to include them in this mail. If you
    want to see how “man’s best friends” are being treated in this city,
    please write back and we can forward them to you. Please forward this
    message to all you know who care. Especially those in the media –
    please help by bringing this news out to the public as you can make a
    difference and stop this bloodbath.

    Thanks,

    Jeremy & Anirban


  11. Raj (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 10:32 am

    I strongly feel that sterilizing dogs is equal to killing them. Bangalore city has the highest number of dogs and common sense says that the stray dog population should be kept to the minimum. I think there should be no stray dogs in the city as you cannot predict in any way when they will get ferocious or violent.

    For this the authorities can introduce a pet licensing system by which everybody having a pet at their homes should register with the authorities. The person having the licence should be held responsible for what the dog actually does. In that way people will be careful about all animals they keep in their homes.

    In many places stray dogs are kept well-fed by traders and flat owners who want these dogs to guard their shops and buildings. I’ve seen people feeding these dogs with biscuits and meat regularly so that these dogs will protect their buildings. These traders and landlords will not assume responsibility when something bad happens.These hapless dogs are doing freelance security work for the traders. It is not just illegal meat shops that breed dogs, but certain people who use these dogs for their own ends.

    One more thing; Is ferocious and hungry dogs mauling children to death not barbaric? Is it modern? It is disgusting to see the so-called animal lovers getting the facts totally wrong here. Animal kingdom includes human beings and as a lover of humans I feel there should be no stray dog in the city. If dog lovers want them, either take these dogs to their own homes or set up shelters for them, instead of holding rallies and marches for the TV cameras and press photographers dressed in jeans and T-shirts. It is disgusting to see these histrionics.


  12. Ruth (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 2:39 pm

    Hello Raj,

    No one protested against the killing of the ferocious dogs what people are protesting against is that the vaccinated and friendly dogs are the ones being put down. The dog catchers will catch the docile ones easily. They are getting Rs 50 per dog they catch.

    Oh battering the dogs head in, is not barbaric is it ? If some dogs do something bad then all dogs have to be put down? For dogs its not a question of bad dog or good dog its the acceptable behaviour of a dog in our community that we label good or bad.

    This planet is not just for us humans. The same God who created us created all creatures. Sterilizing the dogs is not equal to killing them. Once you sterilize a dog it cannot reproduce and this is the only way to bring down the population of dogs. Was it not implemented for us Indians too? Do we not have family planning? Everything in nature has to have a balance. I think your head is not in the right place. Dressing in Jeans and T-shirts should not have been the focus of your attention in the first place. I think you need to rethink what is disgusting Jeans and T-shirts or bashing in the heads of mute animals. Please think what is being a human all about.

    BTW in today’s news paper (Times of India) the commissioner has requested people to adopt one stray dog and at the small amount of Rs 20 they will vaccinate and sterilize the dog. Please adopt a stray dog. I just hope they don’t again go on a killing spree of vaccinated and sterilized dogs.


  13. Raj (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 5:58 pm

    Ruth, you are again not worried about children being killed by dogs. You are worried about “…battering the dogs head in” news reports. You have not said a single word about the children who died.

    “This planet is not just for us humans.” Ruth please don’t teach me eco-philosophy. I’ve had enough of this. If you seriously believe in “This planet is not just for us humans” why should the dogs be killed? Let them live. They will catch rabies, they will kill more children and bite more people. Let them do that. Why this sterilization and population control? Dogs also have the same right as we human beings to live, right?

    “I think your head is not in the right place.” In fact yes, you got it right. When I see people who are over-concerned about dogs, my head will spin and I feel like vomiting. Are dogs the Keystone Species of this ecosystem? Do you know what Keystone Species is?

    “Everything in nature has to have a balance.” Please read some biogeography and ecology textbooks before you post such blunt comments. Ruth, there is no balance in nature since human beings started agriculture and growing in numbers.

    The best part about being a human is the love for all fellow beings. Your problem lies in seeing animals and humans as two separate beings. HUMANS ARE PART OF THE ANIMAL KINGDOM. People like you who does not know the basics are out to save the dogs. What a pity!

    You don’t seem to have read my sugestion on how dogs can be given a better life. You got everything totally wrong.It’s your head which is not in the right place.


  14. Ruth (unregistered) on March 15th, 2007 @ 1:34 am

    I don’t have to keep talking about the children in each post. The issue now is the mass killing of dogs, dogs which are friendly, vaccinated and sterilized. and the dog catchers made a easy kill (and money) of them since they were friendly dogs and easy to catch.

    Did they solve the problem of catching the pack dogs that killed the children…NO! If they did that then I would say great work. But nothing of that sort happened. They took the poor, friendly, neighborhood strays, or the strays from market places and killed them instead to show numbers.

    I have equal love for kids and animals both adopted and living well in my home. So please don’t make presumptions about how I regard children.

    Yes I do believe that the planet is not for just us humans. Yes they should not be killing all the dogs. BTW I did not say not to kill the ferocious dogs.

    When I said everything in nature has to have a balance I meant that when our human population was exploding we also had to stop. And it takes time for the population to come under control and same with the dogs now that its grown so large it will take time to bring it down. There are many dogs in the outskirts of the city and they seem to be wilder dogs. Do you want them moving into our cities ? Once the dogs from the cities have been killed dogs from outside will come in and we will have bigger problems.

    You have misunderstood what I said. We animal lovers are ALL FOR anti rabies vaccination and sterilization for dogs. If everyone will adopt one dog and take care of it the stray dog population will come down, also rabies incidents will come down and the cases of rabies have already come down. Sadly the vaccinated ones have been culled.

    Anyway I am here to talk about the innocent dogs being culled. Not even put to sleep in a decent manner but electrocuted or stoned to death. That is what makes me feel sick to my stomach. I am proud of the few who have rallied to protest against this barbaric treatment to dogs.

    You said “The best part of being human is love for all human beings” it should also be love and respect for all living things, only then you can be humane. If you love humans so much then you should love us animal lovers, in spite of us making you feel sick.

    Ya, maybe I did not read your suggestion about the dogs being put in shelter properly, because I just could not get over your comment on the jeans and T-shirt part. I find it just too amusing! That is why your head is not in the right place that you find jeans and t-shirts and protest marches disgusting but the blood of innocent dogs spilt, is not disgusting. Did you read about the story of one man who went looking for his pet dog and could not find it and his kids were sick at home cause their dog was missing? Do you think that all that was done was good?

    Setting up shelters etc takes time. What the protests were doing was to stop what was going on at once.

    What a pity you seem to think only from your text books. Maybe you should find out a little about how dogs are keeping in balance our eco system.

    Maybe you have never experienced the love of a dog…then you will not be asking if the dog is a keystone species. Try it and see you will be surprised at how the simple love of a dog can awaken your soul and your heart. I am serious…I was just wondering at why I am spending so much time writing all this and then I think maybe you need some human to reach out to you.


  15. Ruth (unregistered) on March 15th, 2007 @ 1:54 am

    If you pick up a starving dog and make him
    prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the
    principal difference between a dog and a man
    ~ Mark Twain


  16. ish (unregistered) on March 15th, 2007 @ 3:24 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    Media is playing in a big-bad role in sensationalizing the “dog eat man” issue. it is not that man has never been bitten or chased by dog till date, every one would just go about doing their job with a shot in the tummy or two. The media with nothing else to report other then – dogs, liz-arun, abi-ash what can you expect. Ordinary dog bits are becoming front page news.

    People supporting the culling do not realize the importance of every animal including dogs, humans in the eco system.

    i guess i will post a big one on my blog one of these days on this topic.

    till then…

    salaam namasthe…

    visit http://3rdeyeview.blogspot.com/

    ++++++


  17. Ruth (unregistered) on March 15th, 2007 @ 7:51 pm

    Before “some one” starts jumping up and down…Getting mauled to death by a pack of dogs is not ordinary dog bite. But yes I agree, the media is playing it up soon after the death of that poor kid there was another article of a boy being bitten when he went to pick up a pup from a litter and the mama dog attacked him. Well that is natural instinct for the dog to protect its pups. But they made is sound like it was something new. I have been bitten by them but I know it was only because as a kid when I pulled the tail trying to wake him up to play ball, that he bit me. Another time I tried to help a pup entangled in a chain. The chain was wrapped so tighlty that I hurt it while trying to release it. Well pup bit me but it was just a nick.

    Oh the media did not cover the gruesome murder of the dogs. Other than a short article of some 50 dogs being killed on the road somewhere in the outskirts. Now I hear that they have stopped and my instinct which told me that the news was being covered up also tells me that maybe they have actually stopped carrying out such awful killings.

    When my dog died last year he died alone at the CUPA shelter. But I woke up with a start and knew that he was gone. I closed my eyes and I could see his soul lying there in his cage. He had just died. He was something really special… he was called the peacemaker. Well I share a wonderful bond with my dog and he warned me of these killings a few days before all this happened. But what can I do to stop them ? Other than write and try and get people to sign petitions and send letters to the comissioner.

    I feel so sad that people are brought up to hate/be scared of animals and question which one is a keystone species. No wonder the world is such a messed up place.


  18. Surya (unregistered) on March 16th, 2007 @ 6:06 am

    I feel really sad about all these happenings. Have we become this cruel? Don’t do this to man’s loyal friends. When I go home from work every evening I get a warm welcome from our dog than from my son. When my husband or son come home lately I can see the anxiousness in her eyes. She worries more than me when they are late. Please don’t do this to loving Dogs.
    If you want to kill a living thing kill instantly. Don’t make them suffer and die.


  19. Chitra (unregistered) on March 16th, 2007 @ 10:46 am

    I am so sorry, Surya. I can understand your feelings. I am feeling terrbile too, especially seeing all the pictures. Hugs!


  20. Vishnu (unregistered) on March 16th, 2007 @ 1:43 pm

    “I feel so sad that people are brought up to hate/be scared of animals and question which one is a keystone species. No wonder the world is such a messed up place.”

    This is Raj writing in another name, because you have disallowed me from commenting. Ruth, I don’t hate animals. I love cats more than dogs and I was brought very well by my parents. My parents don’t regret that.I used to play with my pet dog and cats in my younger days. Today I don’t have time to play with dogs and cats as I’ve something else to do to earn my daily bread.

    I think you are much more gifted than ordinary persons like me as you have written that “I closed my eyes and I could see his soul lying there in his cage.”

    If you have a kid, then you will know the pain of seeing it being bitten to death by dogs.


  21. Ruth (unregistered) on March 17th, 2007 @ 12:56 am

    Hello Raj,

    I am sorry that your having to earn a living should take up all your time. I don’t mean that people are not well brought up if they don’t have love for animals. I think they are just misguided and live out the fears of their parents… I am Love of cats and dogs is fostered by our parents or our guardians who bring us up. We follow them right? I love dogs more than cats. But if something like this was to happen to a cat then I would also protest. It’s just not humane. Have you seen pictures of what they did to those poor dogs?

    Yes I can feel the horror of the people who lost their kids, and yes I am sure all animal lovers think about it too when they see their little ones. It is not the first time it has happened in our country or any other country. I repeat myself… that does not mean that all innocent, friendly dogs be put down… that was my point. That’s what the protests were about. There are so many horrors in this world. Crimes against children being of the worst kind. People who kill a child’s innocence. They then kill an entire generation. And maybe generations to come. Then do we go on a mass killing spree of men? No we don’t so why do it to innocent, friendly animals that don’t have a clue of what happened to that poor kid and were not responsible? I repeat again that’s why I said we should not take an emotional step but an educated one. A female stray dog can litter 10 -12 pups in a year. So do the math. They may have killed say 5,000 dogs but in a couple of years the numbers will be back up again. All this for what ? For the dog catcher to earn a good income? It is our hard earned tax money that will be going into these killings and I want to see my money put to better use than to pay a selfish dog catcher. The only way to reduce the number of strays is to sterilize them.

    I mentioned that I could see my pet’s soul since many believe that dogs don’t have souls. That they don’t go to heaven. I am not extra ordinary. I think everyone can see things and awaken their subconscious. But we get so tied up with our day to day lives that we don’t have time for soul searching. I read somewhere about dogs dying far away from their masters and communicating to their masters telepathically, sometimes through dreams. Dog’s know when their owners are coming back from out of town and will wait for them at the door. Who else will wait for you standing outside in the pouring rain? (my dog did that once when someone left the gate open by mistake) Who else will stay up all night while you work or study? It is really amazing and touching. I have noticed how my pets communicate to each other by touching their noses together. They use telepathy I am sure. All animals do. Man has just stopped using his telepathic senses. It is not a shame to lose touch with our inner selves?

    Anyway this is no way to treat an intelligent and loving species. Dogs are so faithful and we are the ones who domesticated the dog and we are the ones who threw him out on the street. So we should be the ones responsible to take care of them. I mean everyone. Because it is not the animal lover who will throw his pet dog out on the street. I have heard of people asking the vet to put down their Doberman since he was playing with their son and the son knocked his head and cut it on the dining table. I have seen pedigree dogs lost and homeless. So how intelligent and responsible are we?

    “As soon as we lose the moral basis, we cease to be religious. There is no such thing as religion over-riding morality. Man, for instance, cannot be untruthful, cruel or incontinent and claim to have God on his side.” ~ Mahatma Gandhi


  22. Raj (unregistered) on March 25th, 2007 @ 1:59 pm

    Hi Ruth, you are just a kid because you write sentences like this “I mentioned that I could see my pet’s soul since many believe that dogs don’t have souls. That they don’t go to heaven.” This means that you have little interaction with people who are more educated and have a more serious view of the world. I am sorry my reply on the main post got diverted to answering your ruminations.

    Take a look at this – Nine bitten by dogs http://www.hindu.com/2007/03/24/stories/2007032424050500.htm.


  23. Raj (unregistered) on March 25th, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
  24. Ruth (unregistered) on March 26th, 2007 @ 11:00 am

    Well Raj, you have called me “extra-ordinary” and now you are calling me a “kid”. I take that as a compliment! I love to be like a kid. Just a suggestion you should stop trying to label people.

    People are there who think that animals don’t have souls. I don’t have to meet them personally to know this. And it does not mean that they do not exist! Not all are so educated as you claim. And even the educated ones don’t have a clue. And are not the educated ones also the ones ok with the mass brutal killings of strays? So what is being educated mean ? It’s a laugh.

    I took a look at the link like you said. Although the media is just making a huh ha about every dog bite now-a-days and creating mass heseria.
    Please re read the article it mentions in the end that dog bites are not new incidents.

    “This is not new as several cases are reported in our health centres every day. We will soon start the ABC programme in the new areas to tackle the menace there. The victims will be given free treatment if they go to the nearest BBMP health centres,” Dr. Gayatri said.

    Dogs bite, Bees Sting. Go figure.


  25. Jitesh Kumar (unregistered) on March 29th, 2007 @ 3:05 pm

    I am Jitesh kumar from kolkat. Again there is public hysteria over stray dogs. This time a child was mauled to death by dogs. The death of a child due to a stray dog bites, for which all the stray dogs in Bangalore had to pay.
    Incidentally there was also an incident in Bangalore, where a young boy died in his school premises because of carelessness of the school authorities. Some construction was going on in the school and the boy died because a brick fell on his head, carelessness by a construction worker. Going by this logic, all school authorities, construction workers and the masons should be rounded up and killed. Should it?
    It’s so very easy to pour personal vendetta on dumb animals. They are such easy targets, aren’t they? This incident was used as an excuse to kills the dumb animals, something probably the authorities have wanted to do for a long time, rules and regulations not with standing.
    Well! No one has escaped the law of nature or the divine hand of the Almighty. I assure you, Bangalore will pay for this heinous crime as every action has an equal and sometimes not so pleasant reaction. No packs of dogs are going to identify a human child, march up and attack him. There must have been some provocation. Either this child walked up to them while they were eating, or else, taught by adults, shooed and booed them, leading to the attack. Ever so often, adults teach children to throw stones at dogs, hit them, during Dipawali, they tie crackers to their tail and laugh when the dog howls on pain. So why won’t dogs retaliate? Any species will attack if a threat is perceived. Are we not killing over six hundred dogs weekly as a knee jerk reaction? Killing thousands, by that reckoning, of healthy and friendly dogs.
    As for the media, all they want is a sensational story. Lorry drivers kill thousand of Dogs everyday. How boring. Not worth news. Not worth creating a sensation over. Makes no political sense either. After all, politicians depend so much on lorry driver for transport of their ill gotten stuff, for votes, for so much more I am sure. Dogs are not vote banks. How about the drunken driver who mowed down three people yesterday? Let’s go kill him and all other drunkards. Does anyone remember the stray dog that saved a 5 year old boy from being swept away by the Tsunami by dragging him several hundred meters to safety?
    Besides there is no such thing as a man eating dog. They are not hunting humans to eat. This is an instance of the dog human interaction gone badly wrong and actions by humans usually children who are less aware of the potential dangers in their environment and should have not been left to wander unsupervised (not to forget that there are cannibalistic pedophiles around!). I am badly and mentally affected by the inhuman, cruel activities done by official terrorist of our society. They have to stop killing innocent Dog right now.



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