Sorry, pal, I can’t help you!

While I have generally become immune to the gory stuff that comes by in the name of news headlines, I never fail to shudder when it involves children. Reading Manjunath’s death in the jaws of street dogs sent a shiver down my spine early today morning. It would be easy for me to say that as a parent, I can understand what his parents must be going through. NOTHING, nothing that anybody can say or even attempt to will alleviate his parents grief and sorrow. All of us have to just hang our collective heads in shame and pray that other children will not be as unlucky.

You must have read that the concerned minister (I assure you I’m not punning here) visited Manjunath’s house. From my personal experience with him, let me share with you his words when I requested his help / authority to solve a problem that our residential area was facing. His initial reaction, on hearing the problem from us (me and my neighbours) was to say ( I can’t tell you how dumbfounded we were to hear a MINISTER say this!) : “Adhu yennu madake agala, ri!” (Sorry, that can’t be helped!) And pray, what was the problem, you ask? Preventing an open air toilet, indiscriminate garbage and debris dumping! Though a letter was subsequently issued to the BMP officials to solve the problem, I cannot, in my entire lifetime, forget that single initial statement. Here are a couple of pics.

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From this pic, its easy to see why such indiscriminate garbage dumping attracts dogs.

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According to this report,

The area where Manju, as he was lovingly called, was attacked, also has garbage strewn all over.

From press reports of his statements following his visit to Manjunath’s house, I’m not surprised to read that the dog menace problem has been shifted from exercise of his authority & power to that of being prevented by certain NGO’s, animal welfare organisations, do-gooders etc.

Its perhaps time for citizens to collectively forget about the concept of these killers as man’s best friend and take the law into their own hands!

The safety of children, helpless children, demands it!

24 Comments so far

  1. Chitra (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 2:10 pm

    You are very right. Obviously, multiple attacks has still not gotten the government to get their act together about children’s safety. Seriously, can it get any worse? I shudder to think that it can. I am so appalled at the indifference. I feel so ashamed and helpless. Did you see the child’s pic? To imagine his last minutes on earth, gosh, poor poor child. :(


  2. someone (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

    >Oh, and Ms. Suparna Ganguly, vice-president of
    >Compassion Unlimited Plus Action (CUPA), can take
    >her oral vaccines for stray dogs and inject herself
    >with it!

    I’m sorry, personal attacks like this on a person you do not know are not very endearing. You obviously disagree with her opinion on animals, and you are entitled to do that, but this is going too far.

    I’m not suggesting that stray dogs are not a problem, but it is distressing to see how little sensitivity people have towards animals nowadays.


  3. Ravi (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 2:48 pm

    @someone: comments on our site are always welcome but your talking anonymously is not very endearing either!
    For once, just this once, I don’t really care re: insensitivity on dogs or people. Do you really, really know how it feels to lose a child? And in this gory manner? Try even thinking about it.
    And if you really were the thinking type, could you tell me what goes on in your head as you call yourself ‘someone’? I have seen your comments elsewhere here and you seem very learned. Which is a pity. Just what is it you are scared of?


  4. silkboard (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 2:57 pm

    Ravi’s personal attack may have been a bit harsh and over-emotional. But someone and everyone, listen. Human Life comes first. Animal care, food chain imbalance, environment and all that long term stuff later, okay a little later. Especially in our country – we aren’t that developed yet to talk the same language as the west.


  5. blr bytes (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

    I agree with Silkboard, up to a point. Environment comes later? Later than what, human life?

    It ought to be the other way ’round, else there’d be no human life, or not of a quality one would want to live with, around.

    But yes, kill all the dogs, kill ’em tonight.


  6. someone (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 4:45 pm

    “And if you really were the thinking type, could you tell me what goes on in your head as you call yourself ‘someone’? I have seen your comments elsewhere here and you seem very learned. Which is a pity. Just what is it you are scared of?”

    And your response is, more ad hominem?

    The nick was something I started using for a quick comment, but it stuck. I will use a URL for future posts (including this), if that helps you.


  7. Lokesh (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 5:06 pm

    I want to make sure this comes right. This is a real sensitive issue. It is becoming a Man vs Animal kind of thing. I have also commented on Rajesh’s post. Yes, now it is important that some action is taken on the street dogs. After two kids dying due to attacks by street dogs things have to change. We cannot have our children dying for reasons such as this. The administration, the government are suppose to provide solutions for issues like this and something tells me that they will act on this because there is going to be pressure from various quarters on this & the people’s participation on this will also grow. But that said, we should not paint all the street dogs with the same brush. Not all are bad & as ruthless as those involved in the killing, but yes if they are out there on the street no one knows whats in store. I am not a dog lover myself & for me & someone like me its really easy to be using really harsh words against these dogs & just say kill them all but there are bound to be views from people who care about them & feel something for them. I would like to just put it like this, it has become absolutely essential now to ensure that no more such kind of attacks happen whether it leads to death or just injury it doesnt matter. No such dog attacks should happen. So the only best solution for that is take the dogs off the street. No vaccination bit will work here as these deaths have happened not due to dog bites but due to the mauling. Take them off the road please…


  8. Ajith (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 5:10 pm

    An Indian CEO travelling through Denmark was suprised by the way they keep their highways and city streets clean of any garbage. “How do you manage keep your roads so clean?”, he asked a city official. The official, looking a bit confused replied, “er.. we don’t dirty our streets in the first place”

    Moral of the story: A city/country can only be as clean as its citizens!!!!


  9. Ravi (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 5:15 pm

    @Dude…sorry, I mean, Jude: Unfortunately, yes, more ad hominem was my response. Sorry. I realise my mistake and have taken off the offending line.

    @Lokesh: Yup, its time to take action instead of just talking. Lets see what the H.M comes up with.


  10. Ravi (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 5:19 pm

    @Ajith: thanks for your comments and that tale. I’ve read that elsewhere on somebody’s blog. Yours?


  11. sn (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 5:22 pm

    We cannot have any “stray” animals (dogs/cows/buffalos/horses/monkeys etc) in any form (ferocious or non-ferocious) roaming around on the streets… Should any such animal (stray/ not accompanied by owner) be noticed, the BBMP should shift the animal to any of the ‘animal care centers’ like CUPA, etc. I see no point in vaccinating stray dogs and letting them back on the streets…..because if this continues, then one day our streets will resemble a national park!!…I am serious.

    Today we are all shocked hearing about the dog bite incident. But how many of us have statistics of road accidents caused because of “stray” animals (including the ‘vaccinated’ ones!!) ???? Atleast I know one particular case where a couple travelling on a scooter at night had a serious accident because of a buffalo sitiing in the middle of the road!

    The point that I am trying to make is that our streets must be made free of all ‘stray’ animals.

    So lets hope the government “wakes up” and does something


  12. king (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 5:48 pm

    dogs are bad, system is bad, minister is bad.. losing a kid like this is bad.. alrite..!!

    but the residents of that locality, will continue dumping the garbage over ter for ever.. waiting for system to act or minister to clean or dogs will one day understand that ppl live ter and go away.. sigh :(


  13. silkboard (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

    Ajith and King said the best thing here – blaming govt etc is one thing, taking a look at ourselves is another. How many of you, honestly, have never ever thrown any trash on a Bangalore road or sidewalk? Raise your hands.

    Mine goes up first. Yes, I too do it a few times.


  14. silkboard (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 6:05 pm

    Goofed up the comment above, guess the mistake is obvious.


  15. Chitra (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 7:08 pm

    Ajith, King, Silkboard, I agree with you guys. HOWEVER, there aren’t enough trash cans anywhere. Where the heck do you dump trash? Can we all really live without producing trash? Now, THAT would be Utopia! Isn’t the Govt to be blamed for the lack of facilities for us to get rid of the trash? How can we not blame the Govt? Where I live, there isn’t a trash can ANYWHERE in sight. I have never seen one. Since, I actually feel guilty about dumping trash on the street, I give a bag of trash to the maid, and haven’t had the heart to ask her what she does with it!!! And when I am out and about, I actually carry trash until I find a trash can. I am sorry, if I am emotional about this. It is cause I am extremely affected by this. Did you see the child’s pic?


  16. someone (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    @ravi – thanks that was a nice gesture.

    Hopefully this problem will be solved soon. If they are killing them, I hope they do it humanely.

    (The animal agencies do lethally inject animals that are badly hurt and dangerous. I myself have called one of them to take away a paralyzed dog on my street.)


  17. Jellicles (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 10:41 pm

    I think the stray dog ‘problem’ is a symptom of a bigger problem.


  18. NParry (unregistered) on March 2nd, 2007 @ 11:14 pm

    Why don’t BMP collect all the stray dogs and leave’em in front of the residences of the ever-compassionate CUPA and others? Let them care for them and show them the compassion, why should innocent children be sacrificed at the altar of official apathy, misplaced sympathy and plain stupidity?


  19. VS (unregistered) on March 3rd, 2007 @ 2:47 am

    Folks, it has come to point a where it is animal against animal, so everyone of us has to do what mother nature taught us to do long before man became “civilized” and start clearing up your locality of all stray dogs.. you can use ‘humane methods’ like leaving poisoned food outside for these dogs to eat. I’m sorry but it has come to this point.
    The traffic is bad and you can die ‘coz of that, the air, water is polluted and you can die ‘coz of that, and there are hundreds of the other things which can kill you and your family and now we want to add these killer dogs to the list ?? !!
    If some animal lover protests against killing these dogs, kill them too. I’m sure you can legally claim that you acted in self defense :)

    Silkboard says “Especially in our country – we aren’t that developed yet to talk the same language as the west”. But haven’t you seen what the “west” do when they are threatened? Forget about dogs, they are killing PEOPLE in the middle east my man. Ok this may be over simplifying things a lot, but …


  20. someone (unregistered) on March 3rd, 2007 @ 7:13 am

    “If some animal lover protests against killing these dogs, kill them too. I’m sure you can legally claim that you acted in self defense :)”

    Hilarious.

    Hey, statistically you are much more likely to die in a road accident. How about going around psychopathically lynching all drivers? I’m sure it would be considered self-defense.

    PS: Here is some funny reading for you. It even claims that killing stray dogs is illegal. What a joke. We can start being bothered by these western concepts called “laws” right?

    On a serious note, not being cruel to animals is a “western concept”? I thought it was as Indian as they come. This is the land where some animals are considered holy.


  21. VS (unregistered) on March 3rd, 2007 @ 7:53 am

    @someone: I gather that you would like to increase your probability of dying (since now death by dog bite has a finite probability, very likely will be statistically significant soon if nothing is done). Good for you.


  22. silkboard (unregistered) on March 3rd, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

    Someone, not saying just go kill those 40000 dogs. Not saying it is western to be not cruel to animals. I was only pointing to Ravi’s note (now removed) that Animal right activists were the loudest lot in that town hall meeting.

    Anyways. Too many things getting mixed up in this discussion here.


  23. Gunda (unregistered) on March 4th, 2007 @ 3:59 pm

    The behaviour of these animal rights groups is sickening. These people drowned out any opposing speech by shouting like rabid dogs at a meeting organized by BMP after a little girl was killed at Chandra Layout. When asked by BMP if anyone wants to volunteer to adopt stray dogs only a few listed their names. Apparently they left no proper adresses or phone numbers!!! What a bunch of hypocrites.

    It is also obvious that these NGOs are in it not necessarily for ‘compassion’ but also for crores of rupees that BMP gives to NGOs for ABC program.

    A simple solution is to round up at least 50 stry dogs and drop them in the houses of people running CUPA, ARF, and others. Let’s see the response of these people or at least their neighbours.

    A lot of these stry dog lovers (including Maneka Gandhi) should realize that it is the poor who suffer the most as the poor neighbourhoods have the highest amount of uncollected trash. Adults in the poor neighbourhood also have to work leaving little children to fend for themselves. Contrast this with palacial houses many of these socialites live in and lecture the rest of the society about ‘compassion’.


  24. Richard (unregistered) on March 9th, 2007 @ 3:00 pm

    To all you people on this post.

    My heart felt condolences to the family of Manjunath. However i will not blame the animal for the same. I will blame the parents for what happened. You guys tell me if you all had such an area in your place where there is garbage dumped everyday and that you all know that there are packs of stray dogs running about WOULD YOU ALLOW YOUR FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD TO PLAY HIDE AN SEEK IN SUCH AN AREA WITHOUT SUPERVISION?

    No amopunt of consoling will help the parents of Manju becuase they are the cause for this incident to happen. Humans rule the plane earth becuase god gave us the ability to think and differentiate between what is good and what is not. Do you think that the animal knew what it was doing. For all you know it would have been taking revenge becuase their level of thinking is only that much. No stray dogs attack unless provoked. If there was a criminal in your house would you not act in self defense and do what ever it migh take to protect yourself and you family. Its the same way.

    We humans are different from the animals and let us not go down to their level of thinking.

    More awareness and safety will solve this problem than getting rid of all the dogs. In case you still want to kill all the dogs go ahead however kill all the Rowdies and Goondas also has some of them have killed people. There are more people dying due to rowdies and goondas than stray dogs. Stray dogs warn you of any unusuall activities in your streets during the night and this keeps us safe.

    Think and act like humans.



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